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by **excelhasey** » Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:09 pm

Good evening all I hope you have had a great Christmas .......................

Where does BA get all its data from ?? - I have bets on the PDC World Darts Championship which according to BA I am fully "Greened" up on the remaining 11 players left in the tournament yet it says I still have outstanding the Exposure ....................

If I go on the BF website it says I have Liability (same as BA's exposure) but I am "Red" on several selections - And it says, for example, my profit on Gary Anderson, should he win, is different to my position in the market according to the BA

So where does BA get its P/L data from and any suggestions on why their is a difference ??

by **Captain Sensible** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:58 am

BA wil get it's pnl data from the API.

With the website and BA you have the option to display the pnl with or without commission, do you have the website and BA both set the same?

by **excelhasey** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:15 pm

Yes mate I have it set up to show net of commission :-

In BA under Options Preferences General I have show P/L net of commission ticked

In BF under settings under profit & loss I have Display net of commission ticked

What I have noticed in BF under rules for the winner of the Darts it states “Who will win this tournament? At the start of the 1st round all unmatched bets will be cancelled and the market re-opened, the market will then be turned in-play with unmatched bets cancelled at the start of the final. This market will not be actively managed therefore it is the responsibility of all users to manage their positions.”

Not really sure what that means because, in any BF event, when you place a bet the money is taken from your account so obviously those selections who have now been eliminated I have lost my money

What is confusing is if I try and Green up the Red selections, as currently highlighted in BF, I will weaken my strong Green positions, which is fine if I have to, but according to BA I am fully Greened up on all remaining selections still in the tournament

Hmmmm thinker ………

by **Captain Sensible** » Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:07 pm

On some longer markets Betfair used to part settle on the options that couldn't win or been eliminated in order to release funds for players. Are all runners showing on both markets and do you have any retained commission showing in the account summary under your exposure on https://myaccount.betfair.com/summary/accountsummary or any settled bets in your bet history. Are the amounts out by a large amount or just pennies?

by **excelhasey** » Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:45 pm

Happy New year all ..........

Its not just an odd penny, like a rounding up issue or anything that like between the potential returned profit as stated in BA (higher) and BF (lower) its in the pounds but strangely if you take the BF market position from the BA market position it is down about the same for each selection - Not identical but about the same

I cannot see anything in mt betfair account summary that helps me and I assume BF will pay me according to their stated P or L on each selection depending who wins (Michael Smith is my tip :wink:

), therefore I can only assume it has to do with the BF statement that it is not a "fully managed market", so the difference I am seeing must equate to all my losses on selections who have now been eliminated from the tournament which is fine I can deal with that, my confusion is where BA picks up its P/L data from and why a difference

It would be nice to understand for future markets so I don't think I am Green when I am not and vice versa :shock:

2016 eh ......... This time next year Rodney .....................Hee hee

by **excelhasey** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:24 pm

Correction :-

"if you take the BF market position from the BA market position it is down about the same for each selection - Not identical but about the same"

The difference is exactly the same on all remaining selections, so the difference between BA & BF must equate to all my losses on elimated selections, it has to be, but still confused why BA doesnt mirror BF ..............

by **Captain Sensible** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:48 pm

Had you had BA continually open? If you close BA and go into the market now do you get different data or a mirror of the website now more runners are eliminated?

by **excelhasey** » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:55 pm

No i switch pc on only when i am betting otherwise it is off

Same scenario still with differing "green values" between BA & BF but constant "x" difference on all selections between BA & BF

by **excelhasey** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:15 pm

Well well I never expected that but the Darts have finished and my payout was exactly what BA said not what BF was indicating (non managed market) so I won more than I thought I was going too, bizarre but thanks BA

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