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by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 1:34 pm

Just got this message when I tried to access a new betfair account via gruss today. It's a master account which was set up today. I can log in via the website, but cant unfortunately log in via BA. Do I have to wait a wee while to be able to log in via BA? Many thanks.

by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 1:43 pm

doh, i cant trade on a master account thats why I cant log in.

by **GaryRussell** » Fri May 27, 2011 1:44 pm

I know this message is possible, but this is the first time I've seen it. It might be because it's not registered for API access. Try visiting www.gruss-software.co.uk and registering by clicking on the downloads link at the top of the page. Fill in your username, email address etc. and click on the download button. This will take you to another download link but you don't need to go further because at that point it is registered.

by **GaryRussell** » Fri May 27, 2011 1:44 pm

Shows what I know about master accounts :oops:

by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:14 pm

thanks, i did that for the sub accounts as I saw those instructions on another thread regarding a second betfair account. I assume that I cannot start the subscriptions for the sub accounts until the 30 day trial period is up, or can I just start the subscriptions now?

by **GaryRussell** » Fri May 27, 2011 3:58 pm

Wait until the 30 days are up.

by **Captain Sensible** » Fri May 27, 2011 7:34 pm

How did you manage to get a master account Graham?

by **RJM** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:31 pm

Being, ignorant what is a "Master Account"? :oops:

by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:43 pm

Captain - i just asked, called the helpdesk. Had to tell them why and anticipated turnover. I suppose it helps that I pay a lot in commission. Depressingly, it is my largest outgoing each month, by a very long way, even on a losing month!!

RJM - its just an account from which you can have operate sub accounts.

by **Captain Sensible** » Fri May 27, 2011 9:52 pm

Thanks, I'll have to give them a call sometime as I run some bots on a separate account and it 's annoying that they're happy to lumo them for PC but when it comes to comms I can't take advantage of the main acc which is in the 3's

by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 10:00 pm

If you are paying pc then surely it makes no difference overall though? Your commission will always be made up to 20%, so there is no benefit from having a lower rate on a linked account?

by **Captain Sensible** » Fri May 27, 2011 10:06 pm

The difference between how much a PC player on 5% and 2% can be quite a big difference plus it's a lot easier to look at PC avoidance if your comm rate is the same or lower than the implied comm rate of 3%.

For a 2% player your losers are earning more comms than winning bets so cross market arbs can help quite a bit.

by **Graham** » Fri May 27, 2011 10:53 pm

Wow, I did not realise what a difference commission rates make to PC.

I have never really looked at it very closely, as I am on over 40%, but i have just played about with numbers in a spreadsheet to try to get an understanding, and it really makes a huge difference!

My apologies for my incorrect assumption earlier Captain. I stand, well and truly, corrected!!!

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