CANCEL not triggered??

[thunderfoot]

Use the following trigger to trade :-

BACK-F'x'-SL3-SL, where 'x' is the number of seconds to go to the scheduled off. This trigger is activated on my BACK worksheet.

When there are, say, 15 seconds to go to the scheduled off AND the LAY hasn't been traded, I want to ensure I'm not left with an open BACK market so I fired-in a CANCEL trigger on my BACK worksheet, and a LAYR trigger on my LAY worksheet. Result being the LAY WAS triggered on the BACK-F'x'-SL3-SL trigger AND another LAY bet was activated on the LAY worksheet from the LAYR trigger - Result: 1 BACK bet; 2 LAY bets ....... and the damn selection won!!!!!

Shouldn't the CANCEL trigger fired-in with 15 seconds to go, on the BACK worksheet, have cancelled the LAY part of the BACK-F'x'-SL3-SL trigger???

[GaryRussell]

The CANCEL trigger will not cancel the stop loss if the back bet is fully matched. I assume this is what happened in your case. I will change it cancel the stop loss bet. I will release an update later.

[thunderfoot]

The CANCEL trigger will not cancel the stop loss if the back bet is fully matched. I assume this is what happened in your case. I will change it cancel the stop loss bet. I will release an update later.

Hi Gary,
Thanks, I think this would be a help to others as well.

Out of interest, when would the LAY part of the trigger get activated, if the clock goes past the scheduled start time:-
A) On horse racing (would it go In-Play?)
B) On Greyhounds (when there is no In-Play)

[thunderfoot]

Damn ..... forgot to ask, would using CANCEL-ALL or CANCEL-ALL-LAY not work?

[GaryRussell]

No, they all have the same issue, but I will change them all to cancel the stop loss.

[thunderfoot]

No, they all have the same issue, but I will change them all to cancel the stop loss.

Hi Gary,
Another good day turned sour by one BACK bet being left open!!
Trigger activated at 11:43:09
BACK bet MATCHED at 11:43:12
Stop-Loss odds (10.0) triggered at 11:43:21 , but odds quickly rocketed past this to a high of 15.0, before coming back down to 11.0 at the scheduled off time, so the LAY never got activated.
I think I'll just record data from now on until this is resolved

[GaryRussell]

The CANCEL trigger will now cancel the stop loss even if the original bet is fully matched. See http://gruss-software.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3922 for download link of latest Beta.

[thunderfoot]

The CANCEL trigger will now cancel the stop loss even if the original bet is fully matched. See http://gruss-software.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3922 for download link of latest Beta.

Hi Gary, Thanks for this ...... if it works I'd have your babies ... if it was biologically possible

[thunderfoot]

Back on this old chestnut again.

As a reminder the trigger is BACK-F'x'-SL3-SL, where 'x' is the number of seconds to go to the scheduled off.

A BACK bet was fired in today at odds of 6.20, 1min 30 seconds before the scheduled off, so with the Stop_Loss set a 3 ticks I'd expect a LAY bet to have been triggered if the odds had reached 6.80 (probably placed at 7.0). Since the placing of the BACK bet, the Last Prices Matched showed odds of 6.4, 6.6, 6.8, 7.2, 7.0 then back up to 7.8 at the scheduled off.

Any reason why the Stop_Loss Odds did not get met at 6.8 or 7.0?

Was it a case of the Stop_Loss bet being last in the queue when it was placed?

[GaryRussell]

Do you know it actually was placed? Have you checked your betting history on the Betfair website to confirm it was placed?

If it wasn't placed did you do anything that could prevent it like switching to another market after it was placed?

[thunderfoot]

Do you know it actually was placed? Have you checked your betting history on the Betfair website to confirm it was placed?

All from my EXCEL recording of the event .............. 6.2 BACK bet placed at 1:31 to go to the off, MATCHED at 1:29 (2 seconds later);5.9 LAY bet placed 1:27 (BF Bet Ref. confirmed) and UNMATCHED; 6.0 ?? Stop-Loss LAY bet placed at 1:17 (BF Bet Ref. confirmed - different number to the 5.9 LAY bet). This bet ran all the way to the scheduled off time.

The BF History shows the original 5.9 LAY bet as being CANCELLED ...... oddly, can't find the BF Ref. number on the 6.0 LAY bet placed at 1:17. Would have thought this would have fallen in either the VOID, LAPSED or CANCELLED section of my BF History???

If it wasn't placed did you do anything that could prevent it like switching to another market after it was placed?

No, Nein, Nada.

[osknows]

Normally a bet that is cancelled is due to not being matched at either the start or end of an event.

Perhaps your missing the prices in a fast moving market. Have you tried offsetting your bets? I.e if you're waiting for a stop loss at say 5.9 fire in the stop loss with offset of 0.5; so it will fire a price of 6.4 when the odds are at 5.9

You should capture more prices this way.

[thunderfoot]

The CANCEL trigger will now cancel the stop loss even if the original bet is fully matched. See http://gruss-software.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3922 for download link of latest Beta.

Hi Gary,

Is it just the CANCEL trigger that'll do this or will LAYR do it as well?

[GaryRussell]

LAYR will also cancel the stop loss.

[thunderfoot]

LAYR will also cancel the stop loss.

"BACK-F'x'-SL3-SL, where 'x' is the number of seconds to go to the scheduled off. This trigger is activated on my BACK worksheet."

Hi Gary, Had another event today where the BACK part of the trigger was MATCHED, but with 13 seconds to go the LAY part hadn't been MATCHED, so I fired-in a CANCEL trigger to cancel the original trigger and 5 seconds later I fired-in a LAYR trigger (activated on my LAY worksheet for the event).

Both LAY's were MATCHED , but luckily this time the selection lost!!!

Is there something that needs to be switched-on within BA for the CANCEL to work, so that I can safely fire-in a LAY bet as an over-ride to the one that would have been set in the original trigger?